Wednesday, January 14, 2015
Back at it...
Kristi and I have been spending the past two weeks cleaning and refitting Viking Star. Mostly it has gone well with few surprises. A couple of drawers needed to be cleaned, items washed, and drawer scrubbed out with Vinegar. Am having issues with corrosion / damaged seats on the hydronic heaters's couples, and the house battery was not very happy with being left alone for a year. But we are slowly getting it done.
And we are getting back into the Coffee shop mode! Visited 3 or 4 of our favorites, catching up on what has changed (not much), and good coffee. Even made it out to Roche Harbor for a few of their cake doughnuts:
With all this we lucked out getting a house-sitting gig (which is code for: taking care of our old pet while we are away) so have been able to do all this while not living on the boat at the same time. Plus we get to 'borrow' someone's kitty :-)
Thursday we are back on the boat, figuring out where to stuff things we carried back from Minnesota, and start getting ready for a new year of cruising.
And we are getting back into the Coffee shop mode! Visited 3 or 4 of our favorites, catching up on what has changed (not much), and good coffee. Even made it out to Roche Harbor for a few of their cake doughnuts:
With all this we lucked out getting a house-sitting gig (which is code for: taking care of our old pet while we are away) so have been able to do all this while not living on the boat at the same time. Plus we get to 'borrow' someone's kitty :-)
Thursday we are back on the boat, figuring out where to stuff things we carried back from Minnesota, and start getting ready for a new year of cruising.
Saturday, January 3, 2015
"It's so much cheaper to live on a boat", or is it??
We have been collecting and publishing our living expenses for going on 4 years now (just follow the 'Costs' label to see them all). And when Kristi and I took a year off to help out her folks, we continued our tracking - as a way to allow comparison between costs for us to live on land vs. on boat. Now that we have resumed the water-life, let's take a look at the two sets of numbers:
At first blush they look somewhat alike: $35K vs. $37K, with the life-afloat being slightly more costly. But as is often the truth, the devil is in the details. Before that, perhaps a review of the 'ground rules' we use is in order. In short, we work to include all costs associated with the 'life style', but do reserve some items that are not really directly related, or perhaps a more of a personal choice.
We include all costs with the following exceptions:
A comment on the 'Others'. It seems Others is just a way to account for poor-planning, or a way to hide details one would not wish to be known. So far we have not excluded anything outside what is noted above, but in 2015 we will. We are intending on doing a charter trip to the BVI, and will be handling its costs much like we have business travel: include costs for Viking Star, meals, and such - but not airfare, boat rental, fees. Cruisers often travel, but what value does a read gain when that travel can be $10,000 to France for a month vs. $500 to a friends beach cabin? IT is a judgment call, and one we will make case-by case, as well as rarely. (BTW, to further mix things up - our BVI airfare costs will be under $100, using up flyer miles.. So there!)
Even using the bottom $10K of this range, our land costs are now adjusted from $35K/year to $45K/year. Vs. the $37K for the boat life.
It is fun to look at 'data', but that is often not information. Kristi and I talked a bit about the differences, and here are some of our thoughts:

So what is the bottom line? I would say: Overall all it is less expensive for Kristi and I to live on our boat. Maybe by $10-15K a year, once making all the adjustments talked about above. And remember, that is comparing things to costs in rural / farmland Minnesota; not the 'cities' (which are sure to be even higher)
Plus, we get to vacation 8+ months out of the year!
We do hope our efforts to collect and share this is helpful to some. I know when we first started looking into this life, cost data was hard to come by. And we looked to break that trend over the past years.
2014: - A year on Land
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| Viking Star Cost to Not Cruise December 2014 (Click for larger view) |
2013: - A year of Cruising
| Viking Star, Cost to Cruise December 2013 |
At first blush they look somewhat alike: $35K vs. $37K, with the life-afloat being slightly more costly. But as is often the truth, the devil is in the details. Before that, perhaps a review of the 'ground rules' we use is in order. In short, we work to include all costs associated with the 'life style', but do reserve some items that are not really directly related, or perhaps a more of a personal choice.
We include all costs with the following exceptions:
- Income and business taxes (Sales taxes are included as they are 'built into' the price of items)
- Business-related travel (Airfare, auto rentals, etc)
- Though I do report meals (Still got to eat)
- We include costs for moorage of Viking Star during travel - Kristi often gets the place to her self :-)
- We include 'personal' travel, example the trips Kristi took back to Minnesota, as well as my travel back to Viking Star last August.
- Gifts given - such a personal choice.
- Others - Always an others - and case-by-case.
A comment on the 'Others'. It seems Others is just a way to account for poor-planning, or a way to hide details one would not wish to be known. So far we have not excluded anything outside what is noted above, but in 2015 we will. We are intending on doing a charter trip to the BVI, and will be handling its costs much like we have business travel: include costs for Viking Star, meals, and such - but not airfare, boat rental, fees. Cruisers often travel, but what value does a read gain when that travel can be $10,000 to France for a month vs. $500 to a friends beach cabin? IT is a judgment call, and one we will make case-by case, as well as rarely. (BTW, to further mix things up - our BVI airfare costs will be under $100, using up flyer miles.. So there!)
The Details:
In comparing the two years one must also keep in mind a major detail:- We own Viking Star free and clear. There is no boat-payment, but there is insurance and maintenance.
- While in Minnesota this past year we had NO housing costs. No rent, insurance, nor maintenance. We did however split groceries, and Kristi and I covered utilities the last few months (placed under the Misc category).
- Likewise we had no car expenses (though we did pay for Gas when we took long trips)
Even using the bottom $10K of this range, our land costs are now adjusted from $35K/year to $45K/year. Vs. the $37K for the boat life.
It is fun to look at 'data', but that is often not information. Kristi and I talked a bit about the differences, and here are some of our thoughts:
- Groceries is interesting - it appears to be half the cost on land vs. water, some factors to consider:
- While on a Boat we can not drive to Winco or other discount stores - food costs us more. Maybe 30% more.
- We tended to have a (eahm) larger Booze Budget on the boat than on land. Sundowners vs. the mostly 'dry' prairies.
- Dining Out / Entertainment - also appears lower on land
- Kind of the same as above. Hard to get a burger for under $20 at waterside establishments.
- Plus, we had little to no access to coffee shops on the prairies!
- Personal - MUCH more costly on land than water
- Access = opportunity = action.
- Kristi and I learned a long time ago to keep costs down, stay out of the cities while boating.
- However on land there are lots of services (UPS, Fed-Ex, etc) who are more than happy to 'bring the city to you'. (Yes, we could have stuff brought in via Beaver plane - but come on)
- Medical and Insurance: About the same. We were after all still in the USA.
- Transportation: Kind of a wash - but remember the above re: automobile
- Communication:
- A bit unfair data shown on land as we did not pay for communications outside of our personal cell phone.
- What is a typical monthly bill for internet and TV these days? $100? $150?
- Misc:
- Here is where we tossed in items that we had not created a category for, example: Utilities, purchasing a new appliances for the household, etc.
So what is the bottom line? I would say: Overall all it is less expensive for Kristi and I to live on our boat. Maybe by $10-15K a year, once making all the adjustments talked about above. And remember, that is comparing things to costs in rural / farmland Minnesota; not the 'cities' (which are sure to be even higher)
Plus, we get to vacation 8+ months out of the year!
We do hope our efforts to collect and share this is helpful to some. I know when we first started looking into this life, cost data was hard to come by. And we looked to break that trend over the past years.
Friday, January 2, 2015
Cost to Not Cruise Dec 2014 - And a Transition. . . .
December 2014 has come and gone. And for us it represents a transition month on oh-so-many fronts. We transition from Care Givers to Memory Holders, from Minnesotans to Washingtonians, from 'Farmers' to 'Boaters', from Dirt Dwellers to Nautical Nomads - from Not Cruisers back to Cruisers. It was quite a year for us and everyone. And one that Kristi and I would not trade for anything. "The whole idea is freedom..." starts that quote, and we are so glad we HAD the freedom to chose the life we did this past year - hmm: Maybe we were still 'cruisers' in 2014 after all?
So with December of 2014 comes the last of the 'Cost to Not Cruise' posts - going forward we will still track our costs under the flag of Cost to Cruise. (and the background will change back to Ocean Blue from the Grass Green of the past year). But before we get to that, here is December:
First thing one might notice is WOW! Almost $6,000 for the month, way to end the year with a Bang! Well, bang it kind of was. Three highlights in there that pumped up the sum:
Soon will do a post comparing our lifestyle on land vs. on water. To address that question: it is really oh-so-cheap to live on a boat?
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And now here is the standard explanation: If this is your 1st time looking at costs on our blog, and want some more background on why we are reporting what it costs to not-cruise on a cruising blog - well, we took a break by moving back to Minnesota to help out Kristi's folks January of 2014. And we thought it would be interesting to be able to compare our costs on Land vs. on Sea., see more here: mvVikingStar.blogspot.com/.../cost-to-not-cruise-january
For reference here is a summary of what it did cost us to cruise last year:
Again, following the link above will give you access to more details, or
you can click on the Costs label to the right for even more cost data.
So with December of 2014 comes the last of the 'Cost to Not Cruise' posts - going forward we will still track our costs under the flag of Cost to Cruise. (and the background will change back to Ocean Blue from the Grass Green of the past year). But before we get to that, here is December:
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| Viking Star Cost to Not Cruise December 2014 (Click for larger view) |
First thing one might notice is WOW! Almost $6,000 for the month, way to end the year with a Bang! Well, bang it kind of was. Three highlights in there that pumped up the sum:
- Our slow driving trip back 'home'. Transportation (gas) and Misc (hotels) getting the bulk of that - but also some dining out.
- Kristi got some presents for Christmas: Some Bling, and a new computer - into Personal.
- We did eat out a LOT while in Portland, it is the American Way to socialize. . .
Soon will do a post comparing our lifestyle on land vs. on water. To address that question: it is really oh-so-cheap to live on a boat?
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And now here is the standard explanation: If this is your 1st time looking at costs on our blog, and want some more background on why we are reporting what it costs to not-cruise on a cruising blog - well, we took a break by moving back to Minnesota to help out Kristi's folks January of 2014. And we thought it would be interesting to be able to compare our costs on Land vs. on Sea., see more here: mvVikingStar.blogspot.com/.../cost-to-not-cruise-january
For reference here is a summary of what it did cost us to cruise last year:
| For Reference, Costs for Cruising in 2013 |
Thursday, January 1, 2015
Friday, December 26, 2014
Seasons Greetings and Emails from mvVikingStar@gmail.com
Seasons Greetings to all from Kristi and Al.
I am prompted to post this as I noted again there are Emails
being sent out under Viking Star's name with a simple 'click
here' link.
THESE ARE DANGEROUS EMAILS AND
WILL INFECT YOUR COMPUTER WITH A VIRUS!
A spammer has been sending out a blast of Emails almost each month forging Viking Star as the 'sender'; they often contain only a single URL link to some web site and nothing else. Those who know me know there is no way I could create such a simple Email - just too hard to not use lots of words. These Emails are forged, are not sent via Viking Star, and are dangerous. Hopefully your SPAM trap will remove them, but if not:
DO NOT CLICK ON ANY EMAIL WHICH
CONTAINS AN ODD URL IN IT!
There is nothing we can do about these, sorry. One of the facts of the Internet is it is so simple to spoof things. I only know about them as I get some 'address undeliverable' messages returned back to me. And looking at the real sender, they very from Romania, Africa, with the latest being from the UK - bouncing around the world, so no way to shut them down via their internet service provider.
Going into the new year, we wish you a bug free existence, do hope you do not block ALL emails from us, but also hope you take appropriate precautions in the Digital World...
Saturday, December 20, 2014
Generations
Evan met his 'GreatPapa' in August when his mama, brother and sister came to Minnesota. His GreatGrammie had just moved into a nursing home and we were on the way to meet her too. At the entrance, GreatPapa asked if anyone would like a ride. Madalyn and Milo were too shy, but Evan loves EVERYone and was just the right size for GreatPapa's lap.
Oh what joy, for Dad to meet some of 'The Little Ones' he never failed to ask about.
But GreatPapa lived only six weeks beyond this time. And GreatGrammie only four weeks beyond that.
When Al and I arrived at Evan's house nearly two weeks ago, Evan had just had his 6th birthday. There were still cupcakes left over from his family party and he was very eager that we each have one, which we did. He had especially asked for mini cupcakes, and his mom is a good baker and had piped on a thick bloom of frosting. They were very good.
After a short visit it was time to go, and Evan very lovingly and generously asked 'Do you want to take one to GreatPapa?'
Oh my heart.
Not knowing if he had been told of GreatPapa's death or not, I merely said 'He's not here anymore'. I managed not to cry until Al and I were in the car and I asked Al if he had heard, and I told the story.
I asked my daughter later if she had told the kids -- she had come to MN again for the funeral -- and she said that she had told 7-year-old Madalyn, who got very upset, so she hadn't said anything to the boys.
On my next visit to their house, Evan was very concerned. He asked 'Is GreatPapa all alone?' Of course he would be worried that, since Al and I were back in the Northwest, GreatPapa would be all alone in his house. No, GreatGrammie is with him.
Oh how I love this boy, and his love of family.
Monday, December 8, 2014
Cost to not cruise - November 2014
And here we are, November. Kristi and I are out of Minnesota (but still talking with the folks about the -3 and -11 temperatures - not to worry, it did get over 20 for a few days..), and making our way back to Washington and Viking Star. The Cost to Not-Cruise for November looks like this:
November was 'Move Month' for us, and this is reflected in almost all the line items:
What can I glean from the above?
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And now here is the standard explanation: If this is your 1st time looking at costs on our blog, and want some more background on why we are reporting what it costs to not-cruise on a cruising blog - well, we took a break by moving back to Minnesota to help out Kristi's folks January of 2014. And we thought it would be interesting to be able to compare our costs on Land vs. on Sea., see more here: mvVikingStar.blogspot.com/.../cost-to-not-cruise-january
For reference here is a summary of what it did cost us to cruise last year:
Again, following the link above will give you access to more details, or
you can click on the Costs label to the right for even more cost data.
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| (Click for larger view) |
November was 'Move Month' for us, and this is reflected in almost all the line items:
- Groceries are low - we eat out a lot while traveling across country.
- Dining Out is high - we eat out a lot while traveling across country.
- Personal is high - we spent 4 days in San Fransisco!
- Transportation reflects the gas for the car to drive cross country
- Misc reflect costs for Hotels, as well as $135 or so for shipping of our items back to Washington.
- Misc also contained the Utility bills while we were in Storden.
What can I glean from the above?
- Well, 1st - the categories selected for life afloat do not align well with life on land. (Utilities, hotel, etc all in Misc).
- Dining Out, despite being costly, is not THAT much more so vs. purchasing groceries for each day??
- Access to Shopping is a BAD THING! (But then we already knew this, as we noted a spike in our costs when ever we anchored near a city)
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And now here is the standard explanation: If this is your 1st time looking at costs on our blog, and want some more background on why we are reporting what it costs to not-cruise on a cruising blog - well, we took a break by moving back to Minnesota to help out Kristi's folks January of 2014. And we thought it would be interesting to be able to compare our costs on Land vs. on Sea., see more here: mvVikingStar.blogspot.com/.../cost-to-not-cruise-january
For reference here is a summary of what it did cost us to cruise last year:
| For Reference, Costs for Cruising in 2013 |
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