(note: These are LONG posts, if you got here via the 'water maker' label sorting method, make sure to click on the 'older posts' at the end of this one to see the rest of the series)
Item
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Part #
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Sourced From
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Cost
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Notes
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MAIN MOTOR
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Kubota Diesel
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EB 300
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EBay
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$400
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Not sure about part number. Might be EA 300?
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Heat Exchanger
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nextgenerationpower.com
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$400
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Have had issues with bolting flange being too thin, warping and leaking.
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Hot Exhaust
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¾” galvanized steel piping
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Local hardware store
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$35
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Had MPT nipple welded to old exhaust flange
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Hot Exhaust Blanket
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Custom
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Local Supplier
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$150
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Makes it nice and safe!
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Water Lift Muffler
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1.5”
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Local surplus shop
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$50
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Cold Exhaust Hosing
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1.5”
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Local Surplus shop
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$24
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Drive Spindle
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19501-8451-0
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Kubota
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$59
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This is 1-7/16” x 3.5”
Other sizes:
19501-8451-2 1-1/2" x 3.5" PTO shaft
14972-8451-2 1-3/16" x 2.17" PTO shaft
14943-8441-3 46mm x 90mm PTO shaft
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Alternator Drive Pulley 7.75”
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1-2BKH80
1-2913-143
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Surpluscenter.com
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$26
$9
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Pulley and bushing
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Water pumps drive pulley – 3.35”
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1-BKH32
1-2913-143
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Surpluscenter.com
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$6
$9
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Pulley and bushing
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Alternator Drive Belts
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9400-14A1015
(Qty 2x)
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Local Auto supplier
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$35
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I like Gates Green Strip
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Water Pump drive belt
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9400-13A1500
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Local Auto supplier
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$22
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Platform
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Ebay, Craigslist, and other local surplus sources
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Local welder
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$200
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I cut the part on my table saw, he welded them up.
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Isolator Mounts
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V10Z77MAGB-30B
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vibrationmounts.com
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$35
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Another home-built had selected these. I suspect they may OK for just a Gen, but adding the CAT pump they might be too light. Will watch them for damage.
UPDATE: One has failed. So, yes. These are too small for this design. |
RAW WATER PUMP
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Raw Water Pump
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Jabsco 1673- series
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Ebay
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$75
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Pulley – 4.45”
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1-BK47-B
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Surpluscenter.com
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$10
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Pillow Block
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6494K11
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mcmaster.com
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$38
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Jack Shaft
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7405K9
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mcmaster.com
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$38
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Coupler
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6099K42
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mcmaster.com
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$37
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Keyway stock
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98530A177
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mcmaster.com
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$13
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DC GENERATOR
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Alternator
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2700JB
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Ebay
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$95
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Leece Neville 130A LARGE FRAME alternator (for better cooling).
Higher Amp alternator will stall Kubota, stick with 130A max.
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External Regulator brush plate
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A038100265S, 39-5204 or 100265
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Leece Neville
ase-supply.com
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$22
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Used to convert to allow using external regulator
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External Regulator
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XAR
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Xantrax (Ebay)
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$125
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Am thinking to make custom regulator with finer control of AMPs out. Allow for both WM and Alt to operate at same time.
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Upper tensioning Arm
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Local ‘truck’ junk yard
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Free
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Just ask around, they had a pile and said take one!
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Pulley
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P-167
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ase-supply.com
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$15.50
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Any local supplier
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WATER MAKER
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CAT Pump
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CAT 311
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Ebay
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$175
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Find of the Life!
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CAT Clutch
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CAT 34962
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autowashonline.com
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$200
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This one hurt, to pay MORE for the Clutch then the pump!
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HP relief valve
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1200PSI
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Ebay
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$28
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Make sure to route the ‘exhaust’ to a safe place – will make a mess if she blows!
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R/O Membranes
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#2C
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cruiserowaterandpower.com
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$374
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Rich has lots of options on how to purchase parts, and at good prices. Look around for your best mix.
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R/O Pressure Vessels
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#2D
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cruiserowaterandpower.com
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$900
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WOW these things went up in the past 8 years! RO membranes came down though. . . .
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SS HP fittings and hoses
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Many -
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Premier Rubber (Portland OR)
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$350
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These small parts add up!
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Plastic LP Fittings and hoses
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Many -
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Home depot
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$50
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Flow Meter –Raw Water
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0-5 GPM
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EBay
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$26
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VFB-86-SS would work here, but it is $77
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Flow Meter – Produced Water
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VFB-81-SS
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Dwyer-inst.com
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$56.50
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Used 6-60 GPH range meter, SS Parts
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Feed water Pressure Gauge
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21-1640-I
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Surpluscenter.com
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$19
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-30/+60PSI - this one is VERY LARGE, I actually purchased another smaller one but do not recall the source.
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HP Pressure Gauge
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21-1572-X
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Surpluscenter.com
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Free
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There are many options here. I actually reused mine from a salvaged unit.
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HP Needle Valve
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SS-18RF6-A
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EBay
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$50
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Took a long time to find this for under $200
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UV Sterilizer
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Search for “Reverse Osmosis UV Ultra Violet Sterilizer Ultraviolet”
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Ebay
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$99
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Commonly used in aquariums. Make sure to get Stainless Steel or other suitable materials.
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PREFILTERS & RAW WATER PLUMBING
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Sea Strainer
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EBay
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$75
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Housings
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Standard 10”
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Purchased at Closeout sale
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$30
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Total for 3x. Can source anywhere, I like the clear housings.
cruiserowaterandpower.com has for $17 each!
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20u Filter Element
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Purchased at Closeout sale
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$2
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I used Spiral Wound for 20u element, thinking it is a bit more robust.
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5u Filter Element
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Purchased at Closeout sale
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$2
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I used pleated filter for 5u as it has more surface area.
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Hydrocarbon Filter Element
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8-BF-1-1R
2668705
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BilgeKleen part number
Westmarine.com
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$63
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Was about the only place I could locate the element. JUST PURCHASE the element and put into standard housing, not the Kit.
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Active Charcoal Filter
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10”
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Purchased at closeout sale
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$5
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Standard 10” housing with activated charcoal element. Used in back flush line from house water system.
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3-way Bronze valves
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70-604-10
500388
WM# 185506
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Conbraco / Apollo valves
Defender.com
Westmarine.com
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$60
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‘Bronze’ nipples
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PN-750
GRO-PN-750
WM# 10202414
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Groco
Wholesalemarine.com
Westmarine.com
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$70
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These are just now becoming available. MAKE SURE TO USE BRONZE not BRASS!
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‘Bronze’ Check valve
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290605
WM# 308619
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Seafit
Westmarine.com
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$20
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Many other parts and hoses
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Local marine and home building suppliers
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$250
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Use Bronze and underwater rated hoses for anything important! Plastic can be used for LP side of sea water (after needle valve)
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OTHER ITEMS
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Sodium Metabisulfite sterilant FOOD GRADE
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EBay
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$12
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Use to ‘pickle’ the water maker.
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DOW CORNING 111 VALVE LUBRICANT & SEALANT
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EBay
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$20.50
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Use to lubricate membrane seals when interesting into housing
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Salinity Meter
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Search for ‘TDS Meter’
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Ebay
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$19
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Again, often used in Aquariums
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Adding it all up, the grand total comes to: $4,884.50
I have to say, it is always a BAD THING to add up actual costs, I would have guessed around $3000, but it is what it is. And one needs to remember, this is total. Including all those Small Parts that seem to always slip away! Things like exhaust hose, prefilters, sea strainer, etc. It does NOT include my 100's of of hours spent sourcing parts and assembling. But it also does include some nice extras like the UV light, hot exhaust wrap, and hydrocarbon (oil) pre-filter.
Some places got away from me due to time. Towards the end I needed to just Get It Done. Lots of the small Bronze parts were purchased retail. Same for the HP SS fittings and hoses. The Heat Exchanger, and that darned clutch! Overall, I might have been able to shave off $500 or so, and if I had worked a bit more on membrane housing alternatives (I had salvaged end caps from a scrapped water-maker, was looking for suitable piping to make the housings with) maybe another $400-500! Still, even this would have have added up close to $4000. As it is, we are at $5000 and perhaps 4-5 YEARS of aggressive EBay searching!
Alternative? Cruise RO Water and Power's smallest system (20 GPH) retails for $4200. If I had combined that with the Honda 2000i generator we would have had a total solution for about the same $5000. Use the Honda to recharge batteries, Honda and/or main motor (via the inverter) to run the RO maker. But at half the RO capacity.
Their 30GPH unit with a cost of $5050 gets us close to the same output level. It will still run on a single Honda 2000i (as well I assume our 2000W Prosine inverter). Puts the solution cost around $6,000 (though to be honest, we already have a Honda generator - carried as a backup to the backups. . . )
The 40GPH has the same capacity is my home built one, costs $5350 - but it will not run from one Honda unit. Though it likely would from two. (total solution would run around $7100)
Now, I am not picking on Cruise RO - in fact I think they have perhaps the simplest systems and best prices around. If one is going to purchase pre-built, I think you would not go wrong making sure they are on the short list. AND if you are assembling a Home Built - they will sell you the parts as well at rather competitive prices.
Given what we have, I am not unhappy. And a big benefit is large capacity and running using our diesel fuel (which we carry a LOT of) vs. Gasoline. But, looking at it all: Some Solar panels, the 30GPH Cruise RO water maker, and a backup Honda 2000i is not a bad system and well worth thinking about.
NOTE: NOVEMBER 2, 2012 - Make sure to read this entry concerning the pre filter housings!
http://mvvikingstar.blogspot.com/2012/11/water-maker-pre-filters-failed.html
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